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Episode 17 - Happy Boot Year!

January 05, 2021 The Far Post Season 1 Episode 17
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Episode 17 - Happy Boot Year!
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Episode 17 - Happy Boot Year!
Jan 05, 2021 Season 1 Episode 17
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New year, same The Far Post! Sam Lewis, Anna Harrington, Angela Christian-Wilkes, and Marissa Lordanic are back and ready to talk all things women's football. The first two rounds of the W-League have seen Canberra crush it and #HeymanWatch go to another level (4:24). We talk about some of the young players already making their mark (12:50) and how NPLW recruiting is playing a role this season (36:02). The gang also chat about Melbourne City (21:40) and Brisbane Roar's (30:05) starts to the season. There are multiple Boots this week including Leeds' tweet (45:02), the Hexagon graphic (58:06), and pandemic holidays (1:05:10). As always there are some You Love To See Its (0:39) and How Goods (1:06:32) to tie it all together. Follow The Far Post on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

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New year, same The Far Post! Sam Lewis, Anna Harrington, Angela Christian-Wilkes, and Marissa Lordanic are back and ready to talk all things women's football. The first two rounds of the W-League have seen Canberra crush it and #HeymanWatch go to another level (4:24). We talk about some of the young players already making their mark (12:50) and how NPLW recruiting is playing a role this season (36:02). The gang also chat about Melbourne City (21:40) and Brisbane Roar's (30:05) starts to the season. There are multiple Boots this week including Leeds' tweet (45:02), the Hexagon graphic (58:06), and pandemic holidays (1:05:10). As always there are some You Love To See Its (0:39) and How Goods (1:06:32) to tie it all together. Follow The Far Post on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

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Hello, and welcome to another episode of the fart post podcast. It's our first one for 2021. We all made it through the shitstorm that was 2020 and now we're back to do what we always do, which is talk women's football in Australia. I'm joined as I always am by the three best waso pal in the business Sam Lewis and Harrington Angelo Christian Wilk. So let's start a new year with the same old you'd love to see it Sam, what did you love to say this weekend? So there's so much of the discussion leading into this w League season was about young players being given their opportunities Finally, a lot of bench players, giving the free given the free air to sort of spread their wings and do what we all hope that they can and the first two rounds I think has proved it. young players have scored some absolute bangers in the first two rounds. I think they're about five young players under the age of 22 have gone on the scoresheet so far, including Courtney vine, Princess urbini, Laura Hughes, Rosie glia, and Nikki Flannery. And some of those goals were just amazing princess beanies. First golden Sydney Darby was sensational. Niki Flannery's winner against Melbourne city. Oh my god, the whole thing was just so wholesome. I loved it. So yeah, young players scoring bangers confirming theories and narratives you love to see it. Absolutely love to say it. However. What did you love to see this weekend? Well, I love to see one as being proven right because one thing we called for in our dub preview pod was for Adelaide to sign. Cotai Rojas, Maria Jose Rojas, Kota Rojas, they did just that within days of us actually, actually calling for it. Even better, they proved that the summer of Kota Rojas is he because against cambre Fiona was put through this great through ball to the one and only Kota Rojas and she's absolutely turned the camera defense inside out including young Jessica Nash who you hate to see a player retire so young but there's no coming back from this one. She sort of gets around bodies oh well and then just leaves Sally James in the camera go to so flat footed and fish is brilliantly and it's a really passionate celebration as well. Grabbing the grabbing the badge you know so the summer of Kota Eros. You'll have to say it. You love to see it so much. And as we watched at the pub, we were absolutely frothing everything she did. So more of it, I say. And Angela, what did you love to say this weekend? This may come as a little bit of a shock to everyone listening but I absolutely love to see Haman. Well get a hat trick and then round to also score again. She's just on fire. Her finishing is I can't what's the I can't do the gesture, but I'm doing the gesture. What's that gesture? Marissa What do you call that? Do you mean the Italian just told the chef's kiss the chef's kiss I'm doing both getting in my head I'm so excited but chef's kiss that's what I mean so yes, I'm her I'd also the hat trick was just like so beautifully timed because Adelaide Adelaide we're leading by two goals and then Michelle havens like Hi guys. I'm back and just yeah, scored some absolutely lovely goals there so you love to say just the whole thing Hey man watch. You love to say it. You so so love to say it. Sorry Haman watch is obviously a big you have to say it and it's I'm really glad that the people have started to get on board with payment watch as well. I think we do need to say as of our recording, she's only three goals, three goals behind Sam kurz current all time record in the dub of 70. So Haman watch is now fully shifted into all time goalscoring record watch. So it's going to be very fun to see but it's fitting that we nd love to see it on Heyman watch so we can start dub chat with kambrook cambre have been phenomenal so far. This season. They're one of the teams that have played two games and the two from two they've been absolutely exceptional. Sam, what have you made of Canvas? I fall? Yes, super impressed. I'm not surprised, to be honest. Like when we learned about the squad that Vicki Linton had put together I think both of us sort of picked cambre for return to the top four. Pretty quickly, you know, and I think the fact that She has recruited a whole bunch of players who role playing together in the offseason for Sydney Uni in the MPL, they've really clearly carried that chemistry over into the starting 11 Michelle Heymans obviously just on fire, it is so good to see her back feeling comfortable, and like feeling fit and happy and doing what she does. Her finish as you said, enjoy her finishing has been extraordinary. There was a goal where I think it was probably her, her third in the first game. So for her hat trick, where she just dinked the goalkeeper in just such a beautiful way. And she and like the goal that she scored against Melbourne city as well was just like, opened up her body and just curled it into the top. It was just like classic payment, you know, but another player who I've been really, really impressed with actually is Laura Hughes. I feel like we didn't really talk about Laura. He's very much in our preseason previews. But she has been so so solid in midfield to camera and that sort of number six, eight ish kind of floating role, particularly against Melbourne city. I thought she was outstanding. So yeah, I'm just I'm loving camera. I'm loving what they're doing on the field. I'm loving what they're doing off the field. I think they're almost their entire coaching staff is filled with women this season, which is awesome. And the fans are loving it. You know that the the two home games that they've had so far, they're responding in exactly the kind of way that we expect cambre fans to respond to this team, particularly with the return of people like Michelle Heyman. So, yeah, this is one of the big stories of the season. I'm just so like, stoked to be able to like sit and watch it. I think it's really interesting, Sam, and we've seen it across the a league as well, most recently, but with Canberra, they're probably the best example, in the W league. And I know things like probably COVID and that have come into it in terms of factors. But people love a homegrown hero. They love the hometown hero. They love the homegrown kids. They love to see them strut their stuff, they play with passion, they care. I think that's something you see with Nikki Flannery and scoring that banger and grace ma who probably was a bit off the boil early against Melbourne city, but I thought really came into the game and showed that leadership and that composure. And of course Michelle Heymans The best example, I love the way she caressed the ball into the net for that go against Melbourne city. But I think people can really get behind people who place the jersey who play for their hometown or their adopted hometown, in the case of some of these players, Kendall Fletcher as well as just a perfect choice if captain, there's that history their fans identify with the players respect to. And when it comes to some of these players, especially like Heyman and Fletcher, they've been there done that you can't not respect what they've done. And I think that's a really valuable thing for cambre. To have. It is interesting how much we're talking about Michelle Homans finishing because I think in the past, that's probably been an area where she'd let herself down where she had the athleticism and the burst. And the now spirit didn't always finish. And I think there's probably a level of maturity that comes. As obviously, as you get older and you get more experienced where you don't just create the chances we finish them as well. And have finishings just been fantastic. But the question I have for everyone, and it's something that got raised in an interview with Fox during the game was Can she see a return to the materials? For me? It's it's not something I thought would happen, especially after she retired, but she got asked about it on the fox coverage, you know, is, is Tokyo, in your mind like is it there's something you you're thinking about? And you basically say yes. But then also, you know that the year off is probably the best thing that's ever happened to me. I'm enjoying my football and loving what I'm doing. I just want to keep enjoying my football, keep trying to score goals. And whatever happens from there happens. I mean, Michelle Heyman or return to the Matilda's, can we say it, Angela? I like, I would be really happy if she got a call up. But I wonder if her playing the way that she's playing comes from a place of like the pressures off, she knows why she is there this season. And it's she obviously, obviously is coming from a really healthy place. So I wouldn't want her to put too much pressure on herself and then sort of maybe, then turn things like turn herself off a little bit from that. I don't know. Um, but I think if she can keep enjoying her football and keep playing this way, then it's not out of reach for sure. You know, I do like about this, even if Michelle Hammond doesn't end up in contention for the materials. I like your thoughts on this too. Sam is, for me, it sets a marker down. If you're a young player, and you want to break into the materials, you want to get caught up for camps. You have to go well Michelle Heymans doing this. So if you want to be in the mix, you've got to be trying to reach that marker. You Don't just be showing flash in the pan. And I don't know, maybe scoring one goal every three or four games, because that's the player that's been there, done that. And if she says she's hungry, I can't call you up if you're not, at least showing some sort of glimpses that you don't necessarily have to get to the standard that mature humans reached in the in the why, because she's just been fantastic for so long. But if a player like that is hungry, and happy and keen and scoring goals, then I think at the very least, you've got to say, Well, this is the benchmark, if this player is doing so well and isn't going to be involved in the senior setup, then you've got to really hit that next level. Yeah, definitely. And I think that that's one of the greatest benefits of having a sort of sprinkling of Matilda's throughout the W league this season. Even though it's not the sort of commercial driver as the materials have been in the past, I think what they bring is this professionalism and this expectation of a standard, and now that they're surrounded by so many more young players, so many more local players who are actually involved in these conversations, those young players are going to be experiencing that level week in week out. I think Emily gornick spoke about this to media, sort of in the week leading up to kickoff where obviously, because Brisbane will have the highest number of materials but she said that it's it's really important for the players in and around the Brisbane rural setup to, to experience debt, like every day at training it all at games all the time to actually know what it's like to be a professional athlete. And so having someone like Haman there who's been been there done that, as you said, her Oh, she's been through thick and thin, she's experienced all the ups and downs of being a pro in in an in an international level as well, that is going to be so valuable for all the players who are coming through. And you're right, like if and this is like this is a 32 year old Michelle Heyman who had to almost completely retire from football because her body break down. She's come back, and she's doing this at her age. like not to say you can't be great when you're in your 30s. But we all know that women footballers tend to sort of start to decline after they reach that that age. And she's already cute and she's This is the way that she's performing. Like it's it's pretty it's a credit to her. Obviously, it's a credit to the people who are involved in rehabilitating her and getting her to this stand and getting her body to this standard. But it's just it's like, it's it's really good to say I think Haman of all people to be setting that benchmark because there was a lot of sort of little chat about Lisa davana, perhaps being that person returning to Melbourne victory, but at the moment is Heyman that is really sort of striking out on their own and showing what the standard is. And it should be for all the others, at least for all the other strikers in the league, but for all the other young players as well. And how much does it do for I know we talked preseason about some of these young players coming through. And not to throw a player under the bus but Tory Timothy came in from the NPL in New South Wales had some pretty decent raps about it has had to deal with the, I guess, the running Blitz of like an invalid gear and you're going to make a yell at first up, and she looked absolutely guessed. And then has had to deal with the, you know, you've got the scoring prowess of Michelle Heyman who can just poach girls from anywhere. It's so athletic. I think it's really good for some of these young players who come in, and they've maybe been the big fish in a smaller pond, if they've been playing state League, or they've been in, I guess, Junior rep teams to come in, and you get an idea of also, this is what it's like, these are the runs I've got about not just once, but again and again and again. And if I switch off for a minute, they'll pounce, they'll score, they'll catch me hanging out the back, though, bait the offside trap, you don't need to give players like Michelle Heyman much of an opportunity to hurt you. Cuz they'll do it. And I think we saw that as well with the Melbourne city girl even like you, you poor Jessica Nash is a kid who's just got stuck against the absolutes. I'm gonna I don't even know like it was like a steamrolling from Jenna McCormack who's just absolutely powered at home. And it's just the sort of experience that these young players are going to get from having some of these more senior players about, it's good, some of the lessons are going to be hard, it's going to be difficult, but it's the only way you're going to get better is by, you know, testing yourself against these good players and the ones that are going to make it to the next level or the ones that learn from it and go, Well, I'm going to be better next time. I'm going to put in a better showing next time, and I'm going to improve because I want to be that at that point as well. And I suppose also this season with the young players coming through. There's always been young players in and around the dub that they get, they're going to get serious in this season. And we're already seeing that so that it's gonna be a much steeper learning curve. I think a lot of seasons previously, there's always been ones to watch and they've been standouts at that MPL level, but when it comes to actually getting minutes in the dub, that hasn't been hasn't happened but yeah very exciting to see the sort of development and progression there from players who might have otherwise only gotten a few subs on in a normal, normal season. I think and Sam you you're a resident Sydney FC watcher bit to follow on from what Angela said you've got these players that have getting minutes now that probably wouldn't in the past but one thing that really excited me and we mentioned Nikki Flannery earlier was st Princess urbini really come to the fore This is a player that and I think looking out will defer to your pace on this with with quotes from anti European as well Sam but this is a player that for mine has been floating around for a long time got glimpses at the Matilda's has shown she can score at this level pulls out the old banger but hasn't really taken too many games by the scruff of the neck hasn't really shown she can be the one who can I guess, drive forward and put herself in contention Matilda's put her name up in lights. And I think we all expected Sydney to get the better of the wonderous the other day. And I think normally Princess urbini scored it might normally be the, I guess the icing on the cake goal. And she got one of them. But she also scored one to put them to kneel up a banger and a really good finish. And I thought that was really exciting. sad to see a player like that, who I know she's only what 20 but has been around for a long time to actually be involved consistently for the game and not just flesh in and out. What? Yep, definitely Brisbane, he has been in the W like for five seasons. I think people forget that. She's been around for a really long time. But she has always sort of been a sub player. She's been an impact player. She's been a bench player, particularly in the last couple of seasons for Sydney. She has always sort of been on the periphery, because she hasn't been delivering, you know, your ride. She she's called the old banger every now and then when she had a chance. But she's never scored more than four goals in the season, I don't think. But as you said, like I wrote about Princess urbini film my my first ESPN column A couple of days ago. The big question around her now is Will she actually live up to the hype? Because there has been so much hype around her for such a long time. And Auntie urich knows that more than anybody having worked with her for the last couple of seasons. And he had a chat to her before the season started and said, Look, you're not a teenager anymore. I mean, even though she's still sort of as a teenager, you're not you're not a teenager anymore. You need to step up. This is your opportunity. Now you need to grab it with both hands, and you need to announce yourself and I think that she based on her performance in Sydney Darby absolutely took that seriously. Now the question is going to be if she can continue to do that, overall Sydney's performance against the wanderers was as expected, I guess, I you know, you sort of always had the feeling that they would come away with the points. And not just because they they're a team that has been playing together for quite a while, but I thought the wanderers were quite poor as well. And given the wanderers performance against Newcastle, that sort of it showed quite a contrast in the in those two kinds of systems and the confidence of that team had so yeah, but another player worth mentioning from that Sydney Davies, Connie vine, as she you know, form a wanderer. She had a couple of guys last season, when given the opportunity by Dean Heffernan, but never really made herself a permanent, a permanent player in that starting 11 with with great reason. I mean, she was competing with Kristen Hamilton, Lynn Williams, which is really difficult, but I feel like she's going to be playing a really a much more important role with Sydney this season. You know, she scored the first goal and the Darby first goal of the W League season. It was a great goal was a very Courtney vine goal as well, if anyone has watched her at MPL level. And yeah, so I'm just really looking forward to Sydney being the team that sort of confirms again, this wider narrative of young players finally taking their opportunities because so far, we've seen two of them do that. We saw Rosie galera as well, Sam, believe you you were at this game, weren't you? The wonder is jets game where Tara Andrews is just ever present in the league from a Jets perspective. But Rosie glare I think one of the it's one of those names. It's been around for a little a little while now. Not a super long time. But to pop up and score two goals is a is a very nice way to I guess put your name on the competition. Definitely. Yeah, I mean, Newcastle sort of helped her out with the first one Cassidy day was basically passed her the ball, the top of the box that she was like, Oh, thanks. And just yeah, punish her for that one. But yeah, absolutely. Rosie Glee is another player who's been around for a couple of seasons. She started out a camera. moves to wonders last season, didn't get much of a run was on the bench for most of it. But you know, she in her first start this season, her first 90 minutes for the club. She scored two goals. You know, this is something that she is known to be doing in at the end. level as well. And I watched her quite a bit when she was playing for the MacArthur RAMs, because MacArthur with my team, and she's, she's a really great young player. She's really feisty, she's really dedicated. And she's really clever. And now again, we're going to be, you know, actually seeing her, prove that and show that to everybody else. Because so far, it's just a whole bunch of people who are involved with state league football who are familiar with these kinds of players. But now they're actually being given the platform to show why they do have good reps. So some of them like we mentioned Tory to myth before some of them are going to sink. Some of them are going to swim, and that's fine. That's great. That's what we need, because we need to at least give the players the opportunity to sink or to swim. That is the purpose of this season. One that I think has fallen into the swim category. So far, Mercer actually mentioned her when we were talking pre pod. Holly Palmer showed glimpses at Brisbane royal last season, we'll get into Melbourne city, and I guess how they are not impressing compared to last season in a minute. But if there's one player that I think has been really good to watch, from city, it's been Holly Palmer she's, I guess, given glimpses of composure bit of excitement. She always feels like she's in the game. And I don't think you can say that for a lot of city. Andy Harper made a good point on the broadcast that city at times feel very one paste. I think Palmer is one of those players who offers something a little bit different, maybe reads the game a bit quicker. I don't I just have really liked a few of these little glimpses I've seen from a city perspective, in a start to the season that's not had too much to like, I think Palmer has been something to like, which is probably a good way to segue into Melbourne city. We knew they weren't going to be so great this season. They lost so many good players. They did a bit of solid recruiting, bringing in Jenna McCormick, for example, and taking mica but otherwise it's lacking a bit of inspiration. I thought they got better as things went on in that camera game. beyond the obvious light, Kobe conceded. But guys, what do we make? Like, are they gonna make finals? Are they well off the pace? I sort of realized I was very slow to realize this. But the players that city have signed that are really exciting or like big names like Jenna McCormick Chidiac, even someone like Sam Johnson have not been playing foot ball very much. So taking mica has been and she's been from all reports, you know, outstanding, and has basically been keeping city in this and has helped them get you know, what was it the the draw, at least But yeah, I think it's unconvincing. It is unconvincing. And I think that problem of what we were talking about in our preview as well of city having all these defenders, and then you've got players sort of like playing a little bit out of position on trying new positions and not really working a lot of Teagan Allen, was that she was in defensive mid. So yeah, yeah, I mean, I think they're the first few games from Melbourne city sort of confirm all of our fears that we that we aired in the preview episode. And I still don't know who is going to be scoring Melbourne city's goals, even though we do have Alex Chidiac coming in. Even though we have Kira, the Japanese international who I thought was you know, showed some some really nice stuff when she was substituted on in the second game. Riley Dobson is the only striker that they have, who is going to be like outside of gentlemen comics scoring bullet head is who is actually going to be and again, like going back to Holly Palmer, Polly Palmer had to make a lot of forward runs from it, like she's a midfielder. And she had to basically act as a sort of a 10, or a false nine for a lot of that game. And so yeah, I'm really not, I'm not convinced by a city, I won't be surprised if they miss the four. They'll I mean, they'll they'll draw and defend their way. Two points, I don't think that they'll attack that way the points. And that's really boring, to be honest, especially considering the history that beldon city have, you know, I would have thought that they with all the resources that they have, that they would have been able to attract some top talent in the attacking third of the field. But they just haven't done so. And I mean, that's which is great, because it means that it opens up a spot for another team to emerge and other players to emerge as well. But yeah, Angela, I agree with you. I don't think the the sort of the big name players that they've recruited have been particularly impressive. And going off what you said there Sam about like city, basically getting points from drawers and that sort of thing. It's not really how they have played historically like City Football is very possession based. It's a little bit maybe this is my bias coming through but it feels quite arrogant. But that's good because it's often very confident football. And yeah, I don't think that's really going to translate with the squad that they have this season. They also don't seem to have a just fish lock or that just fish local Emily van egmond, sort of. I'm not sure what you would call that sort of player but someone who's got that competitive edge and can force the win. They can have those big moments, especially in that black midfield and frontline. So yeah, but prove us wrong city. If you're listening, prove us wrong, add that, add some spice, add some drama. And I think if they do somehow hit their straps, it was always going to take time anyway. Because as Angela mentioned, McCormick's not playing a whole lot of football GD x not played a whole lot of football when she comes in. Kira has played football, but all these players have had to do two weeks hotel quarantine. And that takes its toll. I think you lose your touch, you can struggle to hit the pace initially and fair enough to because even if you can get an exercise bike or whatever, and I know from an elite perspective, Grant brebner was talking Melvin victories elite coach was talking about the difficulties that these players being in a hotel room, we don't really know how their bodies are going to respond to how long it's going to take them to settle into the team to get that touch to get that fitness you so wary of soft tissue injuries. And especially for players like Sam Johnson or Jenna McCormick, who have not really been playing in the months leading up to that. It's always going to take time to get some touch. I did like that goal from Jenna McCourt, I know she will and truly had the strength advantage over Jessica Nash. But that's what you want to see from the center backs and especially from someone who is playing Captain that day to actually come in and force the issue to make that goal happen. And we'd be interested to see how they do line up attacking wise going forward because I think if Chidiac can come in and slot into 10 my obvious temptation would be to play Kira forward. I think if she's a goal scorer, I use her as the player to help try and poach some girls because for me at times, they did create some chances but they had no one there to finish them off. Whereas if you've got a Michelle Haman, for example, you you can put those chances away so yeah, not not a huge amount of they did look better in the second half. Angela's just sent Jenna McComb squish to the chat. After saying that go Yeah, I think there's a you have to think they can find some sort of positives based on a little bit more energy in that second half. But is it enough to get him in the top four? I got my doubts. I think one of the positives overwhelmingly the positive is taken mica. We mentioned her already this episode. But she has just been extraordinary. And I think I almost regret in our preview episode. Not saying that taking mica was the player that was most looking forward to because we actually haven't seen her play for a really long time she was at in the US college system for three years. And then she was in Norway. So we have no idea how much she's learned or how much she's grown in that time. But that first game against Brisbane war was unbelievable. That like that was a sort of a Casey Dumont label of the extraordinary that is going to put her in serious conversations about goalkeeper of the year already. You know, and that's, it's really, really exciting to see that from a player who is still so young. Teen mark is only 23 she's obviously the feature Matilda is number one goalkeeper. She just looks like commanding, Didn't she say him like in terms of. It's not like she had this star studded backline in front of her. She was running the show. But in that Brisbane game in particular where she was player of the match made something like seven saves. I think she actually had more touches on the ball than any other city player as well. How much she did in that game. She just looked like she ran the show. And I think when you've got I think when keepers are coming through the top ones, they have that confidence. And I don't know if this is from playing in the college system for four years and that sort of American bravado style where you've got to be really confident and outgoing and she's an outgoing personality as it is. But to really succeed in that environment. You have to have that a bit of steel about you. You have to back yourself. Have some confidence, and especially as a goalkeeper really Marshal your defense and get your team up and about. Yeah, we we talk. I guess we've talked about it in previous episodes, how vocal Lydia Williams is and what that's brought to Arsenal and how much we love that for the Matilda's and I know it's such early days still but you just got to love what we've seen from taking micro already like and if she can keep going like this. Apparently she was sensational in Norway as well to keep us playing in England and another who's done the thing in Norway now doing the thing in the W league and mica things just look that little bit brighter for the future. I think having disgust taken mica is now a good segue into talking about the team that she was particularly excellent against in the Brisbane razza. They're one of the other teams that have played two games so far the season and the statline currently reads two games two points, no goals, but also no goals conceded. So it's it's definitely not the start I think any of us expected from them. How are you making of Brisbane start to the season so far? Just wasteful, isn't it? I think that's probably the main thing that's stood out for me. they've, they've got a lot of the paces. The defense is pretty stoic. And we knew that would be the case. You've got Kim Carroll, you've got Claire polkinghorne. There's no shortage of quality there. We know that they have good players in midfield as well. So yeah, looking at this Brisbane four line, but Mario, Erica, who we know has been scoring and playing well in the MPO. It looks like a team that's got forwards who've not been playing with the team recently or not been playing much football, or been in hotel quarantine. So you got Emily Gill, Nick, who was banging in goals in Sweden like banging him in for fun, and then it had to come back to the hotel quarantine settling back into the team that she hadn't played in for a good couple of years. Let's remember she wasn't Melbourne victory before she went off to Europe and to make the Alps not really plateau yet these are players that you'd normally expect to be banging in and we know to make Yeah, I was desperately unlucky we were one I guess got ruled out when clearly the ball had gone over the line. There was also a penalty shout for handball against them Johnson that just incredibly didn't get cold like they've been they've been unlucky. But you do make your own luck to a to a certain extent. And I think they had a they had guilty kept one saved brilliantly by Gabby Garten from victory, but it just looks like it's lacking that bit of sharpness, which I it's not a problem that you can't fix. These players spend more time together, they gel a bit more they make the chances a bit more clear cut, these players get a bit more match fitness about them. Then the girls start to come to me the question is can they should not do it quickly enough to short season, you need to start getting points on the board. We knew Melbourne city will be a relative should have been a relatively tight defensive prospect victory. We're a good team. But now Brisbane needs to start getting points and that's all defensively great. Got to start getting some girls because otherwise they can just start getting away from you. I feel like Brisbane season is going to be one of those. When they score one they're going to score five kinds of seasons, you know, like the floodgates are going to open once they all realize where the goal is. It's gonna they got to run away with the leg because they'd like the game against the game against Melbourne city. They would desperately desperately unlucky. You know, it wasn't just the goal that wasn't called that cross the line. It wasn't just the handball that was missed. Emily Gilman hit the post Katrina Gauri hit the crossbar like there was so many just inch like inches in it kinds of moments that absolutely could have seen them you know, win that game by a good four or five goals and against Melbourne victory they I think that was a tighter game than it was against Sydney. Obviously it was a tidy game and wasn't in city but they still had their chances there as well. I'm pretty sure there was a chance that fell to limitation McKenna who was one on one with the goalkeeper and she sort of shot straight out. I think there were a couple of chances for Emily Gillick as well down the left side. Marielle HCA again had a couple of really good chances that she just shot just a couple eight centimeters over the crossbar. So select they can't do it. Sounds like they can't do it. So it's not like they can't do it. It's just that the bowl needs to go in the net once and then it's garbage going in it a lot of times I think that is Bruce Monroe. And also when it comes to business, I think it is again worth mentioning how good Kim Carroll is as a defender. Like she is just been so underrated and similar for me to Tara Andrews, I think these are players who they've sort of been in the web for such a long time that we have forgotten actually how good they are. And they've been part of setups for such a long time that they just seem like rusted on and through sheer fact that they've had players around them who have been more sort of sparkling and wonderful than they have been. We've sort of forgotten how consistent they are. And Kim Carroll being there alongside clear parking lot I think has been amazing. She's so calm on the ball. She always makes the right decision. You know she's lost her speed of course she has she's older now but she is able to compensate for that in so many other more important ways. And so yeah, shout out to Kim cow this is this is a Kim Carol love fest for me at the moment. Another player who I've really enjoyed watching in Brisbane, his first two games has been marital hiccup and Brazilian she came from a really dominant season with lions in the Queensland MPL and she has shown exactly why she is so raved about in those Queensland NPL circles I think she's been really electric she reminds me of Riley bison and a lot of ways really sort of energetic wants the ball wants to run it players wants to do things like she was just sort of in both of the games that she's appeared in so far. Also technically very, very gifted. She has a football background as well. So yeah, I'm loving her to actually bounce off that Sam it's been interesting in the past I don't think previously clubs have done that recruit international MPL w into the W league thing to Well, I think this might be the season that changes that. We touched on Cotto Rojas earlier she'd already obviously played who you just touched on Hecker as well. But looking at Melbourne victory I think it could be something they've done really well to. Well, Gabby garden was playing for. She's international for Argentina. But she was playing for Essen and Royals who aren't even in the NPL w like top division here in Victoria. Fantastic. I thought Kayla Morrison barely missed a beat at centerback. We've pumped her up since she got signed. And for good reason. She was sensational football. And she obviously is a player who has played football this year going to everyone you hear from she was doing quite well in Sweden. And I thought she just looks so natural came out and tackled at the right time. really made an impact look like a really strong presence in defense, which you don't always see from players who come up from the NPL. And I thought, really astute pick up. I'll be interested to see how Catherine zoom and goes as the season goes on. I thought she'd get used as a pure nine by victory, but she was coming from I think out on the right a lot in that game. So I don't know if that'll change his victory sort of tinker with their structures or play against different opposition as the season goes on. But she didn't do too much wrong but garden with some of those saves and the way she sort of commanded the area given to you as I guess, filling a space led by Casey Dumont, very impressive. And yeah, I just wonder if this will be the season where it turns out that the players we've plucked from the MPL w or the players, I guess, to be fair to those state league teams have actually been attracted to our state leagues. They're actually good enough. It's Yeah, I think it's quite exciting that some of these teams have actually plucked a few of these players out and they're actually delivering the goods which hasn't always been the case in the past. Also, shout out to a friend of the pod, Ellie who actually messaged me and she said that hearing us talk about Mario hacker in our preview made her really happy and she said, best football player I've ever seen. She played professionally in Brazil, and she's insane. The love hot smiley, reading this aloud don't know how to what you would call that. But yes. And yeah, definitely saying that and paid closer attention to her in that victory roll game because of your messages. So thank you. But yeah, so then the only team that hasn't had even any sort of taste of dub action is Perth. But that might actually be a really, really good thing. Sam, tell us how this, you know, it's kind of a good thing for Perth, but they have yet to run out onto a park. Yeah, border closures has sort of meant that all of Perth games have had to be delayed or rescheduled or postponed or whatever. And, and and that's frustrating for the players who've sort of been in and around there for a while. But I think overall, it's probably a good thing because of the last minute nature of the the squad recruitment, the last minute nature of the pockets being recruited as head coach, and he only came out of quarantine, like he had to travel from Sydney. So hey, and they came out of quarantine like a week or two ago. So he hasn't actually been working with the players for very long. And so having a couple of extra weeks to get the players to jail to lay down some foundations, and some philosophies and style whatever I think is probably going to stand Perth in in good stead in the long run. But yeah, I mean, we can't really talk about Perth. We haven't seen them play. Aside from what we said in the preview, which is that, you know, they've recruited I think some pretty exciting players, particularly the trio from New Zealand. really came to see how Malia Steinmetz goes in midfield alongside Hannah Lowry. And there was a really great story in one of the West Australian papers about Lowry apparently that paper doesn't really cover football that much. So the fact that she sort of got there and put a name up in that headline I think is really cool. But yeah, I mean, we'll see. We'll see how we go. Yes, so we have more w league coming up. We have the return of her Sunday Night Football with Brisbane taking on Canberra. Then we've got gangway on Friday. We've got again for four straight days, which is awesome. So Friday, we've got the Jets hosting Sydney FC then Saturday sees Perth get their season underway in Adelaide against the reds. And Sunday we finish it all off with a Melbourne Darby down in dandenong. So it's going to be very, very exciting. So before we move on from the W League, I think it's important just to touch on a bit of news that's come out on our pod recording day of Monday about the Newcastle jets, the football Australia and the Australian professional leagues, which is the new body following the unbundling of the of the league's from football Australia and they have stripped former Newcastle jets owner Martin Lee of the a league and W league licenses. And the new license has always been issued to and it's like a consortium of existing club investors. So basically the Newcastle jets still exist. The license that was there, per se does not in terms of how that affect players from a league and W league. current players are getting offered contracts with the new entity. So you would think that from a W league perspective, they should be able to play out the season with the coaches and players they've got from a Newcastle perspective. I mean, apparently Martin Lee hadn't been putting money in the talk is reportedly from October 2019. So there's not been money going in the reason that the the I guess the IPL and football Australia have given us the I guess the entity that was the Newcastle jets have been failing to pay its debts when they were due, which put them in breach of the club Participation Agreement. So Martin left them stripped of the licenses, it's gone to the these AAPL club investors who operate on an interim basis until they can get a new owner effectively. So, yeah, it's not great times in Newcastle, but basically, the aim is to maintain that presence in that northern New South Wales Lee, no, sorry, Northern New South Wales area long term. In terms of the current season, I like why those teams still going ahead. But I think we knew this was coming for a little while in terms of Newcastle, Sam. Yeah, I mean, I think I think it's a good thing. Overall, Martin lay was not investing money in the club. And the it was the players and the staff that were suffering. And you know, football is a hyper capitalist system. If you can't swim, you'll sink and I think it's great that the, the sort of consortium of other clubs who can afford to do so have decided to keep the club afloat. It's a club that has a rich history in both leagues. And it also has a rich history in terms of player development, like Newcastle is one of the only clubs in the country that has a women's development program the emerging jets they play in the New South Wales on MPL cameras, the other one in size does Brisbane that apply new wells? And yes, I'm, you know, I'm going to be interested in who they bring in now to invest in this club who is going to be the financial backer and whether that person is going to give Newcastle particularly the W league team the kind of boost that I think they have needed for a number of seasons now that we saw last season that they were the only club in the W league that didn't have any international players. And the you know, the very diplomatic response by Kray Danes at the time was that they wanted to focus on on local players they wanted to focus on youth they didn't feel the need to bring in internationals which is like yeah okay but also you couldn't afford to bring him in could you like it couldn't afford to pay them and that's and that's fine. That's just the reality of that. But Newcastle suffered because of that the team stoppage and yeah, so looking forward to seeing what happens next good on the club's for deciding to keep the the club afloat. That's really important to maintain the fabric of the game here and yeah, I mean, for all intents and purposes, the stuff that we see on the field, the sort of the day to day, sort of life of the Newcastle jets probably won't change very much. There's not gonna be a whole lot of stuff that we say that's different. It'll just be the the amount of money that's behind them. is going to change. So yeah. Let's get into some boots. No, Anna, you've been on revved up for about a week now 10 days, you're ready to boot. So please go for it a reserve. I've never been more ready to boot in my life. And that's despite the festive period like, oh boy, which shows how rolled up we all got over this. Leeds United there. Everyone was getting around. We all love a bit of bL sobol. They've been great to watch. But it's proof that we just can't always have nice things. They've gone and ruined it, haven't they? We were rooting for you. Not anymore. Get fucked. So to give some context, Karen Carney, England great. Sorry, Karen Carney, MBA, England great. Fa w ESL great now pundit. They were talking ahead of the ability was ahead of the Leeds game against West Bromwich Albion where she essentially talked about the leads in previous seasons, and I guess in with previous PLC teams. We saw a couple of years ago where they didn't get promoted, because they sort of started the season really well and then just fell over because it's a very high intensity game. I think this is a gesture of trying to get across and effectively said that the break because of COVID-19 probably helped leads out they ended up they were in really good form going into that break, and then they had the season suspension come back play because the Premier League and championship finish their seasons, and they've obviously romped home and got promoted. And so she's effectively said that the COVID-19 and force breakers help leads get promoted rather than falling at the final hurdle, which is something they've done in previous seasons. So the Leeds United admin has taken a clip of this Karen carnies probably said it a little bit clumsy, but I think you can understand her point. They've taken a clip and gone with promoted because of COVID and then won the league by 10 points high at prime video sport because she was doing this for Amazon. So what's happened to you is, Karen carnies made this comment. Let's not forget here that leads, you know, have just won a game five, nil, like playing fantastically talk of the town, so many good reasons. And for some reason, the admin has decided to act like a 12 year old boy, take a video that a fan site has posted on Twitter, of a pundit making a comment that not everyone agrees with, highlighted it to their 668,000 followers on Twitter, and made a point of calling out a pundit. Of course, as women in football, we know what this leads to. It leads to abuse for Karen Carney on Twitter, it leads to abuse for Karen Carney on Instagram. She's turned off her comments on Instagram, she's left Twitter. And I guess the the question then is all but you know, she's made a comment that we disagree with. We think it's a stupid comment. But it's not necessarily just about the abuse that she's copped for making a wrong comment. It's the type of abuse it's get back in the kitchen. It's this is why diversity hires don't work. Make a sandwich. What's she doing? Make a cuppa? And let's not let's not even go into some of the slurs and just disgusting language that's got us about Karen Carney by fans. There was probably always going to be some fans that would go with it because they've seen the comments not liked it. But the problem is Leeds United as I guess as an organization have amplified this criticism. They've put it out there for 600 plus 1000 followers to see and just absolutely invited a pylon which is what happened. And then what has also happened is the chairman andreo radrizzani has basically said I take responsibility for the tweet. And I thought her comments were disrespectful and a couple of players have also backed up the club as well. So it's just not good enough. Like I think the immediate reaction from any women in sport was this is not good enough. It's you've invited a pylon you've allowed a woman to be targeted in sport based on her agenda. You've basically if you're going to target pundits for getting the wrong thing, you do it every time every single time you disagree with a pundit. I know some late fans are like but look at this one. We've called out Look at this one we've caught up I'm not sure saying Oh, but we always abused pundits we disagree with is a great defense for this. seems to be what a few have run with. But yeah, I'll let Sam hills give a bit more of a nuanced version of why I guess doing this to a female pundit is so bad. But for me, the thing that it highlighted is one, either lazy united didn't know, the sort of abuse this would cause Karen county to receive, which shows that clearly there's not enough women involved in their organization. From a media standpoint, there's not enough education given to the men involved in their media team, or they knew what it would do, which is even worse, they knew it would invite a pylon, they knew what would see Karen Carney get abuse, they wanted to rev up their fans, they wanted to set people on, they went with the backs against the wall mentality and didn't really care what it meant for Karen Carney, whichever way you look at it. Shocking move. And for me, especially when you consider that the type of abuse that she's got for being a woman in sport off the back of it. It's just not good enough. Social media isn't something you give to the internet anymore. You meant to be a professional, you meant to get this right. Lazy, noted, just not good enough. Big old boot from me. I can't add anything to that heart. That was excellent. You'd like that fully summed it up. Like it was it was incredibly predictable, I think is the word for it. When it comes to women in football and women in sport, who watched that unfold. It was incredibly, incredibly predictable. And what I found so patronizing was that the club that invited her to the training ground, to what to watch them be good, like I don't what is the you know, and like, this is a woman who has over 100 caps for her national team, she has been involved in football for almost like two decades, probably longer. She is one of the most respected, the most well researched pundits currently operating in football in just generally. And this is the way that she's traded. Like it was just it was extraordinary. And it was it was predictable. It was exhausting. And I don't have I don't have anything to add I tweeted about it already. And I like a lot of people wrote some really great articles about it. Susie rocker, The Guardian wrote a fantastic piece about it. And it was just like, fucking grow up, you know, Leeds United like the they seem to just have this mentality, not just with the organization, but with the fans as well, this sort of mob mentality, this real defensiveness, which is like I get that that's part and parcel of football. But when it comes to making yourself blind, to how your language and your actions affects people, when you punch down, which is what that tweet did. You just look like the asshole. And I don't think anybody outside of Leeds United fans or the club can really argue with that. And I think every woman in sport that saw it knew exactly what was going to happen. Jess Fishlock actually called it out really well being like, you knew it was going to happen. Beth England called it out too. And I think every woman in sport, has known that feeling of being told that they don't belong because of these things that and Angelou I'm sure have a great point on this too. But that's the thing is when women caught this sort of criticism, they get told that they don't belong. They get told that they're having a wrong opinion, or a stupid opinion or whatever, shows that they shouldn't have a place to talk about football, much less on the TV. But apparently Karen Carney having an opinion. I think there are some valid points to Karen Carney's opinion, even if you don't think there was the problem was that the way Leeds handled this, gave certain people in society the opportunity to say, Karen Carney doesn't deserve a place in the media covering women's football because of this comment, which is just outrageous. Let's be honest. Like it. Yeah. It's just incredibly disappointing. But as you said, Sam, it was just so predictable. And I think a lot of Yeah, some of the response straightaway, was that Oh, but she's wrong. She's saying something that's incorrect. And as you said her, like, it's pundits jobs to bring their own analysis and there are Yeah, rating of a situation and to provide that insight and to start discussion. But yes, this was definitely framed in a way that it wasn't ever really intended to start any discussion. I think for the sort of gendered context and the genitive response, not only does it say the just the outright, like you don't belong here, like they get back in the kitchen stuff. But it also I think, creates an environment where women probably feel like they have to always be correct. And they always have to be on. And Karen Carney didn't even say anything that like she did you know what I mean? Like, she probably wasn't waking up that morning and thinking, you know, I'm going to say something a bit spicy. And this is going to be the day that a bunch of people troll me and a horrible and say all this sexist shit to me. It's like, I think the that fear or that will put off so many people and so many women wanting to be involved in get more publicly involved in this sort of thing. And just football in general, the idea that we have to be perfect, or we don't belong at all, when men have just like, say incorrect things all the time, and they're allowed to, that's completely fine. That's part of being a pundit is anyway, just raspberry sounds at this point. Sam, you have anything else to add? Ross resounds. That's a really, really good point, Angela. Like the fact that women in football and women in male dominated sports are not given the same opportunity to fail, as men are. Women in sport generally, already massively over prepare, because we know that we are judged to highest standards, because we're women. And so when we are in situations where our knowledge is being called upon, we make sure that we are as researched as possible, so that we are not faced with this sort of bullshit. Because when it happens, as we are seeing, we get absolutely fucking floored by criticism, criticism that doesn't engage really, and what we've been talking about but uses what we've been talking about as a shield to attack us from other directions. So it's just, it's it. I agree. The one thing I did like see this Karen Carney situation was male pundits, journalists, and beyond those leads footballers, a select few, that should be pretty embarrassed with themselves right now. I thought the support was fantastic. They got called out there were journalists, some of whom would have very strong relationships with leads, I'm sure. That called it out straightaway. Like they didn't wait for the tide or opinions come in. As soon as that tweet went out. There were some pretty high profile male journalists. And I know like from in terms of the male extra bowls like a Rio fan, Ferdinand, who called out pretty quickly and said, it's not good enough. What are you doing? She's poor, this is unacceptable. And I think that does show in one sense how far we've come that collegiality was there. And, yes, I mean, it's what should be happening, but it is good to say that it is. And, yeah, I'd like to see how Leeds actually try and respond because St. Karen Carney, or you're welcome to come up from London to Leeds to watch us train and file a report. is one not good enough to? Why should she make that to make the effort to come and deal with this, you created this problem? It's on late now to show that they can be better than this. But let's move on to a funnier boot. Samantha fucking hit us off. Oh my god. Okay, so one aspect of the Melbourne city can bring out a game that some clever listeners will perhaps realize we didn't mention was the fact that for a good six minutes there, we actually couldn't say much at all. And that's because there was a big shape. I'm not sure how many sides it had. I don't know the technical term for it. But there was a graphic that popped up on the broadcast. And it stayed there. Stay there for a really long time. You know, and I, I don't work in television. But I assume when something pops up on a screen that is going out to millions and millions of people around the world, not just in Australia, but around the world. And it's not meant to be there. I feel like you should do something about that rapidly. half minutes, Sam. And it was minutes that was there. Like I know I know for I appreciate that Fox Sports has been going it's been tough with him recently. They've had to sack a lot of people. They lost a lot of money. I get it. But surely you've been doing this for long enough to know that when there's a floating shape on the sky that's not meant to be there. It doesn't take five and a half minutes to get rid of it. I don't know. It's just imagining there's like a cat in the fox studio just like sitting on a cable. And like wasn't the I like like I was watching Like that was in it like I wasn't sure I was a real weird logo it's sort of it happened w league like when I was getting ready for it to start doing you know, like when you're watching a DVD a and it goes on to the screensaver and you're watching the DVD watching the game around the logo as the DVD train Simon would have been more interesting than Melbourne city's first half of football so that much. Oh, boom. As I said a tweet a lot. I for one welcome and new logo overlord. It was just it brought people together, like watching people talk about it on Twitter, like I was like, in a week where people are fighting over COVID restrictions and so many other things. I'm just glad everyone got brought together by this extraordinary clusterfuck to the category of pink dub, I know. Like, it's up there like sure. Surely it's right up there. Like we've seen in the a gala in the earlier in the weekend that a goal between Wellington and Sydney actually got missed because the cameras cut out. But I think actually a logo just taking over the screen for a solid five and a half minutes. It's like being at CB Smith every week, where you've got the poles in the way, but instead of the poles, it's just this monstrosity of a logo. Or anything that goes in, I write this in my ESPN column this week. My first thought when it happened is this what it's like to have cataracts, where it's like, you just got this floating thing in your vision and you can't get rid of it. And you just have to deal with it. I mean, shout out to the cameraman who I think would try to like recognize perhaps what was going on and tried to like keep the ball in frame at some, at some point across the five decades it took for the Fox Sports people to figure out what was going on. But yeah, it was just it was just extraordinary. Wasn't it? Like how the fuck is is happening in the 21st century? with Fox Sports have been broadcasting the leagues for 15 fucking years. How do you do this? What is just you know, hire somebody who knows what they're doing, man Come on. But it's like not even like just a logo like well, we'll tweet it out. Like it wasn't just like, the W league logo is there like it's Fox's sort of, I don't know, hexagonal. It looks like the six sides football logo. And also, like a Lego w like Lego. And it's like they're all meant to come together in some sort of animation and they're just frozen partway in stone forever, like just a genuine monstrosity. Anyway, that gets the bait for me. One, the hexagons on the timeline was the most piece this world has felt in a very long time to you can't have picked up we can't peek. It's just constantly like this. This is my only strongly held opinion in life. We cannot have pink Australian Football because we're just constantly taking baby through. There was some very funny edits that we will retweet my two favorites were friend of the pod Jeff edited it saw that there was a shadow and it looked like a giant spaceship and Michelle Heymans looking up at it like oh no, they've come in Graham edited I think it's Porky Pig and or the Looney Tunes ending into the hexagon was incredible. I loved it so much. So I'm glad we got that after the kind of heaviness of the late stuff and because you mentioned because you mentioned it a bit to whoever designed say base myth because if you're not getting blinded by the sun, you're probably missing something behind a giant light pole. So be no route to them. Don't get locked in after the game. If you're on one, if you're on the left hand side of the grandstand, they close the tunnel off and then you're just like, let me the opposite of that mean. Yes. It's like the opposite of Yeah. Also, for whatever reason Tayo and Emma Chica we're broadcasting from like a corner behind the fence so like had to rely on like I assume their little screen from the camera largely to call the game they still did a great job. I think it was me check is Fox Sports. stable as well and she was fantastic as far as analysts go, but come on, man. At least let someone see the one final boot Marissa. I guess the time has passed now given we didn't have a pod last week, but I'm sure plenty of people saw the headlines think ourselves Katie McCabe attracted some headlines for going to Dubai. And we saw West and Alicia Lehmann with their partner, Ramona back when the former Chelsea played in the Maldives, and there was a collective of Leon players in Dubai as well. Traveling to go on holiday to the beach, in the middle of the pandemic, don't do it. It's not great. Especially not when you're in London, which is real Roni town at the moment. We know that players like Sam Kurt spent their time like completely isolated over Christmas. Yeah, I just can't get my head around the idea of I know that those players weren't able to go to Europe because of the restrictions placed upon London to then go to somewhere like a Dubai or the Maldives and maybe put the workers in those places at risk as well. I don't like it going away on holidays when you shouldn't really be traveling. I guess more than five K's from your home or whatever their restrictions are compared to say our Melbourne lockdown. Don't like it. So a bit of a boat for players going off on beach holidays when they are meant to be being locked down in a pandemic. Big old date. But let us Let's move into some how good's Angela? Uh, how good? Yes, so my How good is on the same theme except with like, just how Gooding plays staying at home, minding their business, and being cute like soccer power couples pretty much so. Penny ohada. And Magda Erickson posted a tweet of them in like matching Christmas pajamas. Love it. And then Manchester United's Amy Turner got engaged to her partner. I want to say this correctly. And Howard James who plays for reading, I believe and that was real cute as well. So just love to say that content and love to see them not traveling. Overseas during a pandemic. The bar is so low that anyway. Oh, Good heavens. How good? Yeah. My hair good was. We'll remember the classic footage from the Brazil Olympics of Lisa davana. attendee take a drink out of her water bottle having it the wrong way around and Elise Keller not coming and fixing it. One of the greatest clips of all time. Well, Lisa davana has clearly started to see the funny side of that. Five years, sorry, four years on five years on now. And she actually she has a nephew in Melbourne, who is still a baby and she posted a video to her Instagram story of her nephew with his bottle, holding it upside down. And she posted it with the caption runs in the family. She then fixed it and said helping hand and tagged Elise Keller not so Lisa. Getting around the greatest clip of all time. How good It's so good. And Sam how good my how good this week is another shout out. But this time it's a shout out to Doug people who are off the field. So active fans. I adore all of the active fans in the W League and the last two rounds. We saw the roll call. We saw Newcastle jets active and we saw victory Vikings making some serious noise that their games drums chance flags. It's just so wonderful. And Emma check has said on the broadcast of the victory Brisbane game that the players really like love it, they really respond to that sort of enthusiasm into the noise. it sometimes takes them up a level. So keep doing what you're doing, guys. It's amazing. be loud, if you can try and get more people involved. It's so great on the broadcast. And it's something that I think the community more generally needs particularly at this point when restrictions are sort of coming back into play. So yeah. dub dub active fans more generally? How good How good, very, very good. And how good from me so it it was a long time between drinks literally, but we were back for debate at the pub at the Great Northern so Anna Angela and friend of the pod Tom and I were all at the pub we watched Adelaide, Canberra and the Sydney Dobby and it was just so good to be sitting with mates at the pub watching some football, you know, absolutely cackling at what Kota Rojas was pulling off getting to marvel at, you know, Princess or baby bangers. It was just such a lovely way to end 2020 that that's correct. Yes, that was the end of 2020. And it's just, it's the best thing. So if you can go call up your local, ask them to put it on channel 506. Hopefully, they're as nice as the people at the Great Northern who kept changing the channel for us. And get around the pump. Go watch some dub at the pub, you'll have a great time. So and then take some photos, take some photos and tag us in it, put it on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram tag, and we want it to be a thing. How good anyway, that's, that's enough out of us. That's a very large episode. But that's what happens when you record you miss a week. So thank you so much for tuning in. We hope that you will subscribe wherever you are listening to us. And follow us plays on all social medias. Were at the far post pod we love having you guys tag us in things we want you guys to tag us in u dub at the pubs in your home and watching in whatever it is that you so wish so until next week. See is